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dxdobson, 5/6/2024, 9:58PM (12 days ago)- one person liked this

Well. Looks like Sheila will come back, Steffy will dump Finn for loving his mom, block Liam from Ivy and go back to Liam who always loved her and whom she always loved!
What BS!! Where’s the karma?!?!
Steffy broke up Thope ( who I did not like either), hurt her with Douglas, blocked Ivy, killed who she thought was Sheila (no repercussions), cheered on her mom stealing Ridge, continues to disrespect Brooke and yet - in the end she wins!
When does Steffy get pay back?
Even when Liam was ignoring her when she cheated on him, she had everyone’s pity and Bill chasing her.
I like when characters get some karma but this one - never gets it.
One of my faves Carly from ATWT, used to get hers hard!! But that made her winning that much better!

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matisse, 5/6/2024, 10:18PM (12 days ago) @dxdobson

Well. Looks like Sheila will come back, Steffy will dump Finn for loving his mom, block Liam from Ivy and go back to Liam who always loved her and whom she always loved!
What BS!! Where’s the karma?!?!
Steffy broke up Thope ( who I did not like either), hurt her with Douglas, blocked Ivy, killed who she thought was Sheila (no repercussions), cheered on her mom stealing Ridge, continues to disrespect Brooke and yet - in the end she wins!
When does Steffy get pay back?
Even when Liam was ignoring her when she cheated on him, she had everyone’s pity and Bill chasing her.
I like when characters get some karma but this one - never gets it.
One of my faves Carly from ATWT, used to get hers hard!! But that made her winning that much better!

ITA. And who wants to bet she will be pushing her dirt bag brother off on Hope again to keep her away from Liam and Finn, both?

Who knows? Maybe Liam will tell her he meant what he said to everyone and he wants to break the cycle and he starts seeing Ivy. And Hope may end up with Finn whom Steffy will want back if Liam rejects her.

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dxdobson, 5/6/2024, 10:25PM (12 days ago) @matisse

Well. Looks like Sheila will come back, Steffy will dump Finn for loving his mom, block Liam from Ivy and go back to Liam who always loved her and whom she always loved!
What BS!! Where’s the karma?!?!
Steffy broke up Thope ( who I did not like either), hurt her with Douglas, blocked Ivy, killed who she thought was Sheila (no repercussions), cheered on her mom stealing Ridge, continues to disrespect Brooke and yet - in the end she wins!
When does Steffy get pay back?
Even when Liam was ignoring her when she cheated on him, she had everyone’s pity and Bill chasing her.
I like when characters get some karma but this one - never gets it.
One of my faves Carly from ATWT, used to get hers hard!! But that made her winning that much better!


ITA. And who wants to bet she will be pushing her dirt bag brother off on Hope again to keep her away from Liam and Finn, both?

Who knows? Maybe Liam will tell her he meant what he said to everyone and he wants to break the cycle and he starts seeing Ivy. And Hope may end up with Finn whom Steffy will want back if Liam rejects her.

Naaa!! Too much foreshadowing! It looks like maybe Liam will start seeing Ivy then dump her again for Steffy. Big dummy! LOL

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GracieGirl, 5/6/2024, 10:30PM (12 days ago) @dxdobson- 2 people liked this

The show seems to be afraid to allow Ridge or Steffy to experience real karma.

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BBDownunder, 5/6/2024, 10:32PM (12 days ago) @dxdobson

Well. Looks like Sheila will come back, Steffy will dump Finn for loving his mom, block Liam from Ivy and go back to Liam who always loved her and whom she always loved!
What BS!! Where’s the karma?!?!
Steffy broke up Thope ( who I did not like either), hurt her with Douglas, blocked Ivy, killed who she thought was Sheila (no repercussions), cheered on her mom stealing Ridge, continues to disrespect Brooke and yet - in the end she wins!
When does Steffy get pay back?
Even when Liam was ignoring her when she cheated on him, she had everyone’s pity and Bill chasing her.
I like when characters get some karma but this one - never gets it.
One of my faves Carly from ATWT, used to get hers hard!! But that made her winning that much better!

how does steffy losing her husband win?????????

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Dreamgirl, 5/6/2024, 10:58PM (12 days ago) @BBDownunder

Well. Looks like Sheila will come back, Steffy will dump Finn for loving his mom, block Liam from Ivy and go back to Liam who always loved her and whom she always loved!
What BS!! Where’s the karma?!?!
Steffy broke up Thope ( who I did not like either), hurt her with Douglas, blocked Ivy, killed who she thought was Sheila (no repercussions), cheered on her mom stealing Ridge, continues to disrespect Brooke and yet - in the end she wins!
When does Steffy get pay back?
Even when Liam was ignoring her when she cheated on him, she had everyone’s pity and Bill chasing her.
I like when characters get some karma but this one - never gets it.
One of my faves Carly from ATWT, used to get hers hard!! But that made her winning that much better!


how does steffy losing her husband win?????????

According to recent posts he's not worthy of her and she needs to dump him. So I'm thinking that means she wins if she dumps him?

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Celeste @, 5/7/2024, 3:40AM (12 days ago) @BBDownunder

She is already itchy for Liam and will take any lame chance to dump her husband

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rexitaliano, 5/7/2024, 7:54AM (12 days ago) @Celeste

Steffy had many chances to dump her husband and didn't.

After both forced kisses, after the drunken ons, Steffy looked , felt and sounded disgusted.So no she's not itchy for Liam

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Celeste @, 5/7/2024, 1:02PM (12 days ago) @rexitaliano

But seeing liam with ivy revived the old itch

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dxdobson, 5/7/2024, 9:46PM (12 days ago) @rexitaliano

Steffy had many chances to dump her husband and didn't.

After both forced kisses, after the drunken ons, Steffy looked , felt and sounded disgusted.So no she's not itchy for Liam

No after the drunken ons they were actually talking about being together!
When Liam found out the truth he apologized to Steffy and she was upset at him for going to Hope.

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lynnsmom, 5/7/2024, 7:40AM (12 days ago) @BBDownunder

Well. Looks like Sheila will come back, Steffy will dump Finn for loving his mom, block Liam from Ivy and go back to Liam who always loved her and whom she always loved!
What BS!! Where’s the karma?!?!
Steffy broke up Thope ( who I did not like either), hurt her with Douglas, blocked Ivy, killed who she thought was Sheila (no repercussions), cheered on her mom stealing Ridge, continues to disrespect Brooke and yet - in the end she wins!
When does Steffy get pay back?
Even when Liam was ignoring her when she cheated on him, she had everyone’s pity and Bill chasing her.
I like when characters get some karma but this one - never gets it.
One of my faves Carly from ATWT, used to get hers hard!! But that made her winning that much better!


how does steffy losing her husband win?????????

She won't be losing her husband, she will be throwing him away because he doesn't bow to her demands.

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rexitaliano, 5/7/2024, 9:50AM (12 days ago) @lynnsmom

She will be throwing him away because he became a danger to her and the kids, because trying to force the psycho on her victims is emotional abuse

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lynnsmom, 5/7/2024, 11:36AM (12 days ago) @rexitaliano

She will be throwing him away because he became a danger to her and the kids, because trying to force the psycho on her victims is emotional abuse

No one has tried to force anything. I won't argue about things that haven't even happened. It is futile.

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Sammy @, 5/6/2024, 10:33PM (12 days ago) @dxdobson- one person liked this

Well. Looks like Sheila will come back, Steffy will dump Finn for loving his mom, block Liam from Ivy and go back to Liam who always loved her and whom she always loved!
What BS!! Where’s the karma?!?!
Steffy broke up Thope ( who I did not like either), hurt her with Douglas, blocked Ivy, killed who she thought was Sheila (no repercussions), cheered on her mom stealing Ridge, continues to disrespect Brooke and yet - in the end she wins!
When does Steffy get pay back?
Even when Liam was ignoring her when she cheated on him, she had everyone’s pity and Bill chasing her.
I like when characters get some karma but this one - never gets it.
One of my faves Carly from ATWT, used to get hers hard!! But that made her winning that much better!

I agree totally

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fan87, 5/6/2024, 10:46PM (12 days ago) @dxdobson

Well. Looks like Sheila will come back, Steffy will dump Finn for loving his mom, block Liam from Ivy and go back to Liam who always loved her and whom she always loved!
What BS!! Where’s the karma?!?!
Steffy broke up Thope ( who I did not like either), hurt her with Douglas, blocked Ivy, killed who she thought was Sheila (no repercussions), cheered on her mom stealing Ridge, continues to disrespect Brooke and yet - in the end she wins!
When does Steffy get pay back?
Even when Liam was ignoring her when she cheated on him, she had everyone’s pity and Bill chasing her.
I like when characters get some karma but this one - never gets it.
One of my faves Carly from ATWT, used to get hers hard!! But that made her winning that much better!

Yep if feels like Steffy can’t be touched. Id like to think she’ll suffer when her marriage ends, but we know she’ll be in Liam’s bed in about 5 minutes. Maybe Finn will dump her? That would be fun!

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GracieGirl, 5/6/2024, 11:11PM (12 days ago) @dxdobson

Well. Looks like Sheila will come back, Steffy will dump Finn for loving his mom, block Liam from Ivy and go back to Liam who always loved her and whom she always loved!
What BS!! Where’s the karma?!?!
Steffy broke up Thope ( who I did not like either), hurt her with Douglas, blocked Ivy, killed who she thought was Sheila (no repercussions), cheered on her mom stealing Ridge, continues to disrespect Brooke and yet - in the end she wins!
When does Steffy get pay back?
Even when Liam was ignoring her when she cheated on him, she had everyone’s pity and Bill chasing her.
I like when characters get some karma but this one - never gets it.
One of my faves Carly from ATWT, used to get hers hard!! But that made her winning that much better!

I have experienced Steffy getting real payback once. When Ridge stripped her of her marketing job for the “HO” sign she put in lights during Hope’s first HFTF show and that’s because Ridge defended Hope. It was direct payback for bad behavior. Since the Steffy returned from Europe all those years ago, and took Liam from Ivy the last time around. She’s not paid the price for any of her bullying.

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dxdobson, 5/7/2024, 1:32AM (12 days ago) @GracieGirl

Well. Looks like Sheila will come back, Steffy will dump Finn for loving his mom, block Liam from Ivy and go back to Liam who always loved her and whom she always loved!
What BS!! Where’s the karma?!?!
Steffy broke up Thope ( who I did not like either), hurt her with Douglas, blocked Ivy, killed who she thought was Sheila (no repercussions), cheered on her mom stealing Ridge, continues to disrespect Brooke and yet - in the end she wins!
When does Steffy get pay back?
Even when Liam was ignoring her when she cheated on him, she had everyone’s pity and Bill chasing her.
I like when characters get some karma but this one - never gets it.
One of my faves Carly from ATWT, used to get hers hard!! But that made her winning that much better!


I have experienced Steffy getting real payback once. When Ridge stripped her of her marketing job for the “HO” sign she put in lights during Hope’s first HFTF show and that’s because Ridge defended Hope. It was direct payback for bad behavior. Since the Steffy returned from Europe all those years ago, and took Liam from Ivy the last time around. She’s not paid the price for any of her bullying.

Steffy since that one little slap on the hand has had many more “wins”.
Someone asked how is Steffy winning is she loses her husband. She will be doing the dumping.
Finn will never dump Steffy!
And the way she and Liam are acting they have the greatest relationship. Forgotten is the FIL sex, the rage at Liam and Hope when she got on drugs,. It’s all forgotten….

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lynnsmom, 5/7/2024, 7:41AM (12 days ago) @GracieGirl- one person liked this

Well. Looks like Sheila will come back, Steffy will dump Finn for loving his mom, block Liam from Ivy and go back to Liam who always loved her and whom she always loved!
What BS!! Where’s the karma?!?!
Steffy broke up Thope ( who I did not like either), hurt her with Douglas, blocked Ivy, killed who she thought was Sheila (no repercussions), cheered on her mom stealing Ridge, continues to disrespect Brooke and yet - in the end she wins!
When does Steffy get pay back?
Even when Liam was ignoring her when she cheated on him, she had everyone’s pity and Bill chasing her.
I like when characters get some karma but this one - never gets it.
One of my faves Carly from ATWT, used to get hers hard!! But that made her winning that much better!


I have experienced Steffy getting real payback once. When Ridge stripped her of her marketing job for the “HO” sign she put in lights during Hope’s first HFTF show and that’s because Ridge defended Hope. It was direct payback for bad behavior. Since the Steffy returned from Europe all those years ago, and took Liam from Ivy the last time around. She’s not paid the price for any of her bullying.

But then she continued to bully Hope, and Ridge let her get away with it. So gross. Bullying a virgin over sex was just so very tacky.

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B&Bfan1980, 5/7/2024, 1:46AM (12 days ago) @dxdobson- one person liked this

Well. Looks like Sheila will come back, Steffy will dump Finn for loving his mom, block Liam from Ivy and go back to Liam who always loved her and whom she always loved!
What BS!! Where’s the karma?!?!
Steffy broke up Thope ( who I did not like either), hurt her with Douglas, blocked Ivy, killed who she thought was Sheila (no repercussions), cheered on her mom stealing Ridge, continues to disrespect Brooke and yet - in the end she wins!
When does Steffy get pay back?
Even when Liam was ignoring her when she cheated on him, she had everyone’s pity and Bill chasing her.
I like when characters get some karma but this one - never gets it.
One of my faves Carly from ATWT, used to get hers hard!! But that made her winning that much better!

I loved Carly, and I agree.

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rexitaliano, 5/7/2024, 7:43AM (12 days ago) @dxdobson

Karma for what?
Hope broke up Thope,,
Steffy,didn;t block anyone, Liam is free to see Ivy whenever he wants
Steffy defended herself againt someone who broke into her place to murder her,
Steffy wanted her parents to reunite , but it was all Ridge;s doing, te leis aand blidnsioding Taylor claiming that his chpice hs nothing to do with anything Brooke did.
Steffy treated Beooke the way she deserves.

Steffy doesn't deserve any karma for these things.And thr past things, she more than paid for them.

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Bob, 5/7/2024, 12:04PM (12 days ago) @dxdobson- one person liked this

Steffy gets nothing but karma. She just knows how to be resilient and turn lemons into lemonade.

Someone asked, how would losing her husband be winning? The response was that it’s being said that he should be dumped, not worth it, etc… so how is that losing (or something to that effect). Well this is an good example. Steffy loves her husband and would not want to lose him, but it won’t destroy her. If she loses him because of all of this, he was not worth it anyway. It ultimately won’t be her loss, though initially it might feel like it. If she loses Finn, would that not be karma for supposedly breaking Thope up (though Hope and Thomas are responsible for that, but many blame Steffy for holding a gun to Thomas’s head and making him leave after threats of violence if he didn’t listen to her suggestion. It was all Steffy’s doing right)?

Steffy previously lost her marriage, a baby she thought was hers, got hooked on drugs and had many other instances of “karma.” Later, she also found out that the father of her child and the man she had just married was Sheila’s birth son. That could be seen as karma for the ONS with Liam, but she made lemonade out of lemons and devoted herself to her husband (with one very valid condition, no Sheila). She has gotten shot and almost died. She also lived with thinking her husband was dead for awhile.

I see plenty of blame and karma thrown Steffy’s way. She can hardly catch a break. She just bounces back and eventually makes it a blessing in disguise.

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rexitaliano, 5/7/2024, 1:28PM (12 days ago) @Bob

Exactly, Steffy always pays for her "misdeeds" unlike lope, brooke,...but Steffy is resilient, she doesn't allow it to destroy her.Steffy went through too much.

Steffy lost Her twin sister, her grandmother, her virginity to a man who used her for revenge, her first child, her mother for a good portion of her childhood, her line because Katie wanted to screw her over, her adopted daughter, her father’s loyalty, her husband Finn briefly and nearly lost her life four, five times.
Steffy came up with the idea of the line that was stolen and handed to Hope.
H ope attempted to control her by insisting that she evict Taylor from her home if she wanted Kelly and her half-sister to have any kind of relationship.
Steffy lost her father to Hope’s family. Something Hope happily threw in Steffy's face.
-Steffy is so hard like her grandmother. Steffy's life has made her hard.

Phoebe (Her twin dies)
Her mother being shot by Sheila
Liam drama for years
Adoption of Phoebe
2 Motorcycle accidents
Losing her first child
Thinking she could never get pregnant after losing first child
Almost losing her brother on several occassions
Opiod addiction
Mom hurt by Ridge over and over again
Husband shot
Dealing with being a widow
Steffy being shot, head injuries, ski accident
Kelly almost drowning
Sheila getting off from murder charges & attempted murder
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karma for what again?

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dxdobson, 5/7/2024, 9:59PM (11 days ago) @rexitaliano

Exactly, Steffy always pays for her "misdeeds" unlike lope, brooke,...but Steffy is resilient, she doesn't allow it to destroy her.Steffy went through too much.

Steffy lost Her twin sister, her grandmother, her virginity to a man who used her for revenge, her first child, her mother for a good portion of her childhood, her line because Katie wanted to screw her over, her adopted daughter, her father’s loyalty, her husband Finn briefly and nearly lost her life four, five times.
Steffy came up with the idea of the line that was stolen and handed to Hope.
H ope attempted to control her by insisting that she evict Taylor from her home if she wanted Kelly and her half-sister to have any kind of relationship.
Steffy lost her father to Hope’s family. Something Hope happily threw in Steffy's face.
-Steffy is so hard like her grandmother. Steffy's life has made her hard.

Phoebe (Her twin dies)
Her mother being shot by Sheila
Liam drama for years
Adoption of Phoebe
2 Motorcycle accidents
Losing her first child
Thinking she could never get pregnant after losing first child
Almost losing her brother on several occassions
Opiod addiction
Mom hurt by Ridge over and over again
Husband shot
Dealing with being a widow
Steffy being shot, head injuries, ski accident
Kelly almost drowning
Sheila getting off from murder charges & attempted murder
.............................................

karma for what again?

If we want to go back to the motorcycle accident - as Hopeyougogirl said, by that time she had been chasing Liam and Bill but got her clutches in Liam by using sex to lure a horny young man dating a virgin. She again went to Liam’s house the night before the 2nd wedding, while Hope was staying with her grandmother who was coughing from lung cancer - ruining wedding 2.
She made the decision to jump on the motorcycle after her husband had her promise not to.
They were both hurt. She left her husband.
Then she comes back again - yes because of Quinn - but she should have never stopped by.
She broke up Livy, chested with Bill, and maybe would have passed off Bill’s baby as Liam’s . That we will never know. Oh and for that after Liam left her everybody pitied her, Ridge threatened Liam, but at the end of the day - again she runs is CEO of Forrester.
And on and on.

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PatriotGirl @, 5/7/2024, 1:44PM (12 days ago) @Bob

Steffy gets nothing but karma. She just knows how to be resilient and turn lemons into lemonade.

Someone asked, how would losing her husband be winning? The response was that it’s being said that he should be dumped, not worth it, etc… so how is that losing (or something to that effect). Well this is an good example. Steffy loves her husband and would not want to lose him, but it won’t destroy her. If she loses him because of all of this, he was not worth it anyway. It ultimately won’t be her loss, though initially it might feel like it. If she loses Finn, would that not be karma for supposedly breaking Thope up (though Hope and Thomas are responsible for that, but many blame Steffy for holding a gun to Thomas’s head and making him leave after threats of violence if he didn’t listen to her suggestion. It was all Steffy’s doing right)?

Steffy previously lost her marriage, a baby she thought was hers, got hooked on drugs and had many other instances of “karma.” Later, she also found out that the father of her child and the man she had just married was Sheila’s birth son. That could be seen as karma for the ONS with Liam, but she made lemonade out of lemons and devoted herself to her husband (with one very valid condition, no Sheila). She has gotten shot and almost died. She also lived with thinking her husband was dead for awhile.

I see plenty of blame and karma thrown Steffy’s way. She can hardly catch a break. She just bounces back and eventually makes it a blessing in disguise.


Love this post! You nailed it!!:star :star :star

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Zaneygray, 5/7/2024, 7:24PM (12 days ago) @Bob

Steffy gets nothing but karma. She just knows how to be resilient and turn lemons into lemonade.

Someone asked, how would losing her husband be winning? The response was that it’s being said that he should be dumped, not worth it, etc… so how is that losing (or something to that effect). Well this is an good example. Steffy loves her husband and would not want to lose him, but it won’t destroy her. If she loses him because of all of this, he was not worth it anyway. It ultimately won’t be her loss, though initially it might feel like it. If she loses Finn, would that not be karma for supposedly breaking Thope up (though Hope and Thomas are responsible for that, but many blame Steffy for holding a gun to Thomas’s head and making him leave after threats of violence if he didn’t listen to her suggestion. It was all Steffy’s doing right)?

Steffy previously lost her marriage, a baby she thought was hers, got hooked on drugs and had many other instances of “karma.” Later, she also found out that the father of her child and the man she had just married was Sheila’s birth son. That could be seen as karma for the ONS with Liam, but she made lemonade out of lemons and devoted herself to her husband (with one very valid condition, no Sheila). She has gotten shot and almost died. She also lived with thinking her husband was dead for awhile.

I see plenty of blame and karma thrown Steffy’s way. She can hardly catch a break. She just bounces back and eventually makes it a blessing in disguise.

Fantastic!! :cool :cool

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hopeyougogirl, 5/7/2024, 7:48PM (12 days ago) @Bob

Steffy gets nothing but karma. She just knows how to be resilient and turn lemons into lemonade.

Someone asked, how would losing her husband be winning? The response was that it’s being said that he should be dumped, not worth it, etc… so how is that losing (or something to that effect). Well this is an good example. Steffy loves her husband and would not want to lose him, but it won’t destroy her. If she loses him because of all of this, he was not worth it anyway. It ultimately won’t be her loss, though initially it might feel like it. If she loses Finn, would that not be karma for supposedly breaking Thope up (though Hope and Thomas are responsible for that, but many blame Steffy for holding a gun to Thomas’s head and making him leave after threats of violence if he didn’t listen to her suggestion. It was all Steffy’s doing right)?

Steffy previously lost her marriage, a baby she thought was hers, got hooked on drugs and had many other instances of “karma.” Later, she also found out that the father of her child and the man she had just married was Sheila’s birth son. That could be seen as karma for the ONS with Liam, but she made lemonade out of lemons and devoted herself to her husband (with one very valid condition, no Sheila). She has gotten shot and almost died. She also lived with thinking her husband was dead for awhile.

I see plenty of blame and karma thrown Steffy’s way. She can hardly catch a break. She just bounces back and eventually makes it a blessing in disguise.

She can hardly catch a break? LOL. She's the one that likes to bully others..she's been doing it for many years to most of the women on this show. She has purposely inserted herself into Batie's marriage, Lope's engagement, Livy, Wivy, Tally Queric relationships, plus her year long parent trap scheme to break up Bridge's marriage just so mommy can have daddy again.

And in this Sheila's story, Steffy was once again the violent bully who went into Sheila's home and attacked her, punched her twice when Sheila's just minding her own business, working at her job, in love with Deacon, and hasn't gone over to the cliff house in months (AFTER she saved Kelly's life).

I find it refreshing that even JMW recognized that her character likes to "stir the pot" in her latest interview..and I agree with her on this point. So imo, Steffy deserves karma in this story for violently poking the bear again..she never learns for some reason.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Bob, 5/8/2024, 3:05AM (11 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

How is she not getting karma now? She almost got killed by Sugar, has not had much peace since, and now that things are starting to settle down, Sheila is alive. Like I said before, all she gets is karma. I’m not sure what some are looking for her to get? The things happening in her life don’t seem like rewards to me. She just handles things, doesn’t dwell on how it’s supposedly everyone else’s fault but hers, eventually turns it around, and makes the best out of it.

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rexitaliano, 5/8/2024, 10:48AM (11 days ago) @Bob- one person liked this

Exactly.It seems that only if Steffy is humiliated, more abused some will feel happy

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hopeyougogirl, 5/8/2024, 1:03PM (11 days ago) @Bob

How is she not getting karma now? She almost got killed by Sugar, has not had much peace since, and now that things are starting to settle down, Sheila is alive. Like I said before, all she gets is karma. I’m not sure what some are looking for her to get? The things happening in her life don’t seem like rewards to me. She just handles things, doesn’t dwell on how it’s supposedly everyone else’s fault but hers, eventually turns it around, and makes the best out of it.

How is "all she gets is karma" when she still hasn't paid for siding with Bill's despicable lie about Caroline dying and never told her brother the truth, OR for shooting Sheila too, OR her hacking into Brooke's private security system OR for her year long parent trap scheme???? Just to name a few that she never got karma for.

And all she does is dwell on 99% wrong in her life is the Logans' fault..that is why her deep rooted Logan hatred led her to declaring a war on Brooke/Hope when they did absolutely nothing to her at the time she declared a war because she holds forever grudges just like her mother does. IMO.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Bob, 5/8/2024, 1:42PM (11 days ago) @hopeyougogirl- one person liked this

Is there a tit for tat checklist? That’s not always how karma works. A lot of what Steffy has been through is extreme enough that I suspect that the karma you are looking for may fall into some of those things that happened after whatever some are dying to see her annihilated for took place. Being in a coma, getting shot, almost dying herself, among the many other not so pleasant things that happen to her. Now if we are going for lists and lack of accountability to match each action, I have some that I can list for other characters who don’t get held accountable for most of their not so nice acts.

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hopeyougogirl, 5/8/2024, 2:38PM (11 days ago) @Bob
edited by unknown, 5/8/2024, 2:42PM

Is there a tit for tat checklist? That’s not always how karma works. A lot of what Steffy has been through is extreme enough that I suspect that the karma you are looking for may fall into some of those things that happened after whatever some are dying to see her annihilated for took place. Being in a coma, getting shot, almost dying herself, among the many other not so pleasant things that happen to her. Now if we are going for lists and lack of accountability to match each action, I have some that I can list for other characters who don’t get held accountable for most of their not so nice acts.

Except, Steffy is the only nasty character that stir the pot causes trouble for others, but in the end she gets rewarded and thanked instead of being held accountable. I remember she's the ringleader who declared a war against Brooke/Hope and started her year long parent trap to break up Bridge, but in the end, Brooke and Hope actually thanked bully Steffy for exposing her brother who was just following ringleader Steffy's demand to "get rid of Brooke" at all costs. Thomas took the fall for the parent trap while bully Steffy was praised..disgusting! She also cheated on a loyal Finn with her married ex..and stupid Finn rewarded her with flowers and a proposal too..no accountability for Steffy there either. LOL.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

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Bob, 5/8/2024, 5:04PM (11 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Is there a tit for tat checklist? That’s not always how karma works. A lot of what Steffy has been through is extreme enough that I suspect that the karma you are looking for may fall into some of those things that happened after whatever some are dying to see her annihilated for took place. Being in a coma, getting shot, almost dying herself, among the many other not so pleasant things that happen to her. Now if we are going for lists and lack of accountability to match each action, I have some that I can list for other characters who don’t get held accountable for most of their not so nice acts.


Except, Steffy is the only nasty character that stir the pot causes trouble for others, but in the end she gets rewarded and thanked instead of being held accountable. I remember she's the ringleader who declared a war against Brooke/Hope and started her year long parent trap to break up Bridge, but in the end, Brooke and Hope actually thanked bully Steffy for exposing her brother who was just following ringleader Steffy's demand to "get rid of Brooke" at all costs. Thomas took the fall for the parent trap while bully Steffy was praised..disgusting! She also cheated on a loyal Finn with her married ex..and stupid Finn rewarded her with flowers and a proposal too..no accountability for Steffy there either. LOL.

You are looking too closely for tit for tat to see that she has gotten payback. Again karma doesn’t work that way. The parent trap did not work. Her mother didn’t end up with Ridge so her family was not reunited. It almost happened but was ripped away before her dream came true. That is not winning and that was karma. Her parents reuniting is something she wanted a lot and she almost had it.

Again, sleeping with Liam and being rewarded with flowers and a proposal resulted in Sheila being her mother in law. How was that not karma? That should be self explanatory. It the karma that keeps on giving.

I really want to keep this about Steffy, so I won’t list the many things others have not even partially accounted for. And in no way is she the only one that stirs the pot. It’s all subjective based on who’s a favorite.

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hopeyougogirl, 5/8/2024, 5:55PM (11 days ago) @Bob

Is there a tit for tat checklist? That’s not always how karma works. A lot of what Steffy has been through is extreme enough that I suspect that the karma you are looking for may fall into some of those things that happened after whatever some are dying to see her annihilated for took place. Being in a coma, getting shot, almost dying herself, among the many other not so pleasant things that happen to her. Now if we are going for lists and lack of accountability to match each action, I have some that I can list for other characters who don’t get held accountable for most of their not so nice acts.


Except, Steffy is the only nasty character that stir the pot causes trouble for others, but in the end she gets rewarded and thanked instead of being held accountable. I remember she's the ringleader who declared a war against Brooke/Hope and started her year long parent trap to break up Bridge, but in the end, Brooke and Hope actually thanked bully Steffy for exposing her brother who was just following ringleader Steffy's demand to "get rid of Brooke" at all costs. Thomas took the fall for the parent trap while bully Steffy was praised..disgusting! She also cheated on a loyal Finn with her married ex..and stupid Finn rewarded her with flowers and a proposal too..no accountability for Steffy there either. LOL.


You are looking too closely for tit for tat to see that she has gotten payback. Again karma doesn’t work that way. The parent trap did not work. Her mother didn’t end up with Ridge so her family was not reunited. It almost happened but was ripped away before her dream came true. That is not winning and that was karma. Her parents reuniting is something she wanted a lot and she almost had it.

Again, sleeping with Liam and being rewarded with flowers and a proposal resulted in Sheila being her mother in law. How was that not karma? That should be self explanatory. It the karma that keeps on giving.

I really want to keep this about Steffy, so I won’t list the many things others have not even partially accounted for. And in no way is she the only one that stirs the pot. It’s all subjective based on who’s a favorite.

Disagree completely. You have your opinion and I have mine..and we differ that's fine.

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Shown on screen, Steffy blackmailed Bill. Yet, she told Ivy (and Liam too) that “blackmail is a crime”. Per Steffy’s own words, she IS a criminal cuz she has blackmailed.

No Karma - Spoilers

Bob, 5/8/2024, 6:50PM (11 days ago) @hopeyougogirl

Disagree completely. You have your opinion and I have mine..and we differ that's fine.

Agreed

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Barbybo, 5/7/2024, 7:50PM (12 days ago) @dxdobson

Well. Looks like Sheila will come back, Steffy will dump Finn for loving his mom, block Liam from Ivy and go back to Liam who always loved her and whom she always loved!
What BS!! Where’s the karma?!?!
Steffy broke up Thope ( who I did not like either), hurt her with Douglas, blocked Ivy, killed who she thought was Sheila (no repercussions), cheered on her mom stealing Ridge, continues to disrespect Brooke and yet - in the end she wins!
When does Steffy get pay back?
Even when Liam was ignoring her when she cheated on him, she had everyone’s pity and Bill chasing her.
I like when characters get some karma but this one - never gets it.
One of my faves Carly from ATWT, used to get hers hard!! But that made her winning that much better!

If she’s back with Liam that’s enough payback stuck with waffel wuss guy

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