Is Hope too involved with Finn? (General)

Saying I am here etc it’s just not her place…..remember she worked Liam same way marriage troubles then she got knocked up

Liam was a willing participant never “ worked” my Hope. As far as Finn, he was emotional today clearly, was she just suppose to walk away from someone she considers a friend?

I thought she was just being a good friend

Me too, no flirting at all.

NOT TODAY anyway but other days? ah yep

Saying I am here etc it’s just not her place…..remember she worked Liam same way marriage troubles then she got knocked up

Liam was a willing participant never “ worked” my Hope. As far as Finn, he was emotional today clearly, was she just suppose to walk away from someone she considers a friend?

Finn was happy today he was giggly wiggly his psycho mommy rose from the ashes…..he needs to tell steffy not gab with Hope

Finn will find out that aside from Deacon no one will share his giggly wiggly feelings for his "mom".

This is kinda like he married Quinn

Saying I am here etc it’s just not her place…..remember she worked Liam same way marriage troubles then she got knocked up

No, but it will be poetic justice if Hope and Finn grow close. What can Steffy possibly say about it? She is the queen of inserting herself into couples' relationships.

Exactly!

And Steffy will probably have dumped Finn and found her way to Liam's bed anyway.

Yes, Liam will definitely be happy to comfort her!

Saying I am here etc it’s just not her place…..remember she worked Liam same way marriage troubles then she got knocked up

No, but it will be poetic justice if Hope and Finn grow close. What can Steffy possibly say about it? She is the queen of inserting herself into couples' relationships.

Exactly!

And Steffy will probably have dumped Finn and found her way to Liam's bed anyway.

Well lately Steffy sure has been giving the putz "chachacha" eyes. And the way she grabbed him away from Ivy did not give friend vibes at all.

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Saying I am here etc it’s just not her place…..remember she worked Liam same way marriage troubles then she got knocked up

No, but it will be poetic justice if Hope and Finn grow close. What can Steffy possibly say about it? She is the queen of inserting herself into couples' relationships.

Exactly!

And Steffy will probably have dumped Finn and found her way to Liam's bed anyway.

Oh steffy can’t be that dumb Liam’s a wimpy

Saying I am here etc it’s just not her place…..remember she worked Liam same way marriage troubles then she got knocked up

No, but it will be poetic justice if Hope and Finn grow close. What can Steffy possibly say about it? She is the queen of inserting herself into couples' relationships.

Switchen sex partners yet again…yuck

Yes, Steffy likes to mix and match. She will be banging Liam while married to Finn. Hope is single.

Hope cheated who knows it’s not saintly Hope anymore she did married Liam she could do married finn

Hope doesn´t want to sleep with Finn. But he likes that he can talk to her and she will not judge him.
She herself doesn´t like Sheila and Finn knows it but she still listens to him which will do him good.

Saying I am here etc it’s just not her place…..remember she worked Liam same way marriage troubles then she got knocked up

Hope said that as a friend. Friends will say that.
Hope never worked Liam. That was Steffy

She stuffed him in a cabin and offered herself up…just like day his baby died in the hospital….

She didn’t stuff him anywhere, nor did she offer herself up. And she didn’t even talk to Liam in the hospital the day Steffy stupidly wrecked her motorcycle while knocked up.

There was a scene Hope said now you can move on liam….when Liam’s baby died……and she did get knocked up by a married Liam……but now she’s the new Hope likeable sexy vamp. Both gals can do better than goofy liam. But Hope and Finn he’s wussie like Liam Hope they don’t go there…jmo

Saying I am here etc it’s just not her place…..remember she worked Liam same way marriage troubles then she got knocked up

I think Hope was just being a friend. Who else does Finn have in his life that he could talk to about Sheila? His dad is not around. He certainly can't talk about her to Steffy or Li because they just demand that he forget about Sheila. Ridge is the same way. If Brooke talked to Finn about Sheila, it would send Ridge and his mini me Steffy into a rage. Finn is not going to talk to Liam, the same guy was trying to insert himself in Finn's marriage. Luna and Poppy have enough of their own problems right now. Finn doesn't know Zende or Carter that well and they would probably take Steffy's side. Eric would take Steffy's side. The only ones left are Deacon and Hope.

Hope who called Sheila a psycho and killer, again threatened her father to cut Sheila out of his life or she would cut herself and the grandkids out of it (all within earshot of Sheila hearing it) is now going to be a friend and let Finn wax on about how wonderful his birth mother is? Hypocrite.

That's who Hope is and always has been.

Just because Hope does not want to be around Sheila does not mean that she can't listen to Finn express his thoughts. She does not have to be around Sheila to listen to Finn. In fact, if Steffy would listen to Finn about his feeling instead of demanding that he forgets about Sheila, then Finn wouldn't have to turn to Hope. Steffy would not have to be around Sheila to consider her husband's feelings and at least listen to him.

Saying I am here etc it’s just not her place…..remember she worked Liam same way marriage troubles then she got knocked up

I think Hope was just being a friend. Who else does Finn have in his life that he could talk to about Sheila? His dad is not around. He certainly can't talk about her to Steffy or Li because they just demand that he forget about Sheila. Ridge is the same way. If Brooke talked to Finn about Sheila, it would send Ridge and his mini me Steffy into a rage. Finn is not going to talk to Liam, the same guy was trying to insert himself in Finn's marriage. Luna and Poppy have enough of their own problems right now. Finn doesn't know Zende or Carter that well and they would probably take Steffy's side. Eric would take Steffy's side. The only ones left are Deacon and Hope.

Hope who called Sheila a psycho and killer, again threatened her father to cut Sheila out of his life or she would cut herself and the grandkids out of it (all within earshot of Sheila hearing it) is now going to be a friend and let Finn wax on about how wonderful his birth mother is? Hypocrite.

That's who Hope is and always has been.

Saying I am here etc it’s just not her place…..remember she worked Liam same way marriage troubles then she got knocked up

I think Hope was just being a friend. Who else does Finn have in his life that he could talk to about Sheila? His dad is not around. He certainly can't talk about her to Steffy or Li because they just demand that he forget about Sheila. Ridge is the same way. If Brooke talked to Finn about Sheila, it would send Ridge and his mini me Steffy into a rage. Finn is not going to talk to Liam, the same guy was trying to insert himself in Finn's marriage. Luna and Poppy have enough of their own problems right now. Finn doesn't know Zende or Carter that well and they would probably take Steffy's side. Eric would take Steffy's side. The only ones left are Deacon and Hope.

Hope who called Sheila a psycho and killer, again threatened her father to cut Sheila out of his life or she would cut herself and the grandkids out of it (all within earshot of Sheila hearing it) is now going to be a friend and let Finn wax on about how wonderful his birth mother is? Hypocrite.

Hope didn't want to be around Sheila nor have her children around Sheila. Just because Finn can talk to Hope about Sheila does not mean that Hope has to be around Sheila. That's comparing apples to oranges.

Then Hope should be honest with him and tell him what she really thinks of Sheila, that she is a psycho and a killer and not let him ramble on about what a hero she is and how she has changed. Bringing him back to reality is being a friend, letting him continue to be in this fantasy world is not..

Saying I am here etc it’s just not her place…..remember she worked Liam same way marriage troubles then she got knocked up

I remember it well and “working Liam” was exactly the way I saw it. Every scene in that roach motel with Liam and Hope grated on my nerves…Hope “helping” Steffy while passive aggressively dissing her to Liam and ultimately telling him she would never do to him what Steffy did. Errr, no, you didn’t sleep with your FIL once because you were devastated and thought your marriage was over, you fantasized about your husband’s nemesis for months and then had an actual sexual relationship with him for many more months. She’s setting the table now with Finn. It’s coming and he’s an oblivious dolt who would never see it. Personally I’m hoping Steffy realizes Finn is a lost cause and kicks him out before Hope can take advantage of her “marriage troubles” again. She can have him after the fact, and then let’s see how she enjoys walking her talk about psycho mommy. As I recall Hope didn’t want her kids around Deacon if he was involved with Sheila. I don’t remember her ever dropping that tidbit on Finn, just acting angelically understanding of his feelings to his face.

After the way Steffy has treated Hope, Hope owes Steffy nothing. Hope owed Steffy nothing then either. Steffy had inserted herself in every relationship that Hope had, standing by willing to take the leftovers. Bill had a lot to do with Liam not going back to Steffy. Steffy is the one that choose to have sex with her father-in-law. Liam was going back to her until Bill made it look like he and Steffy was still having an affair. If Hope actually bangs Finn tomorrow, it would be nothing that Steffy hasn't already done to Hope with Liam. It is weird that it is ok for Steffy to not want her children around Sheila, but not for Hope not to want Beth around Sheila. Finn is a grown man who can see Sheila on his own. Just because Hope is willing to listen to him doesn't mean that she or her kids have to be around Sheila.

No one is saying that Hope should allow the kids around Sheila. If she is going to listen to Finn ramble on about his wonderful bio mom then she should be telling Finn that she will never allow he kids around Sheila and the reasons why. But she won't, she will just feign understanding while remarking his wife doesn't understand.

Exactly. Easy peasy at this point.

Why should she already tell Finn that Beth will not be around Sheila when it didn´t even come up?
I am sure if Finn had asked Hope if she would bring Beth with her to meet Sheila Hope would have told him no...but why should she talk about something that was not even mentioned?

Saying I am here etc it’s just not her place…..remember she worked Liam same way marriage troubles then she got knocked up

I remember it well and “working Liam” was exactly the way I saw it. Every scene in that roach motel with Liam and Hope grated on my nerves…Hope “helping” Steffy while passive aggressively dissing her to Liam and ultimately telling him she would never do to him what Steffy did. Errr, no, you didn’t sleep with your FIL once because you were devastated and thought your marriage was over, you fantasized about your husband’s nemesis for months and then had an actual sexual relationship with him for many more months. She’s setting the table now with Finn. It’s coming and he’s an oblivious dolt who would never see it. Personally I’m hoping Steffy realizes Finn is a lost cause and kicks him out before Hope can take advantage of her “marriage troubles” again. She can have him after the fact, and then let’s see how she enjoys walking her talk about psycho mommy. As I recall Hope didn’t want her kids around Deacon if he was involved with Sheila. I don’t remember her ever dropping that tidbit on Finn, just acting angelically understanding of his feelings to his face.

After the way Steffy has treated Hope, Hope owes Steffy nothing. Hope owed Steffy nothing then either. Steffy had inserted herself in every relationship that Hope had, standing by willing to take the leftovers. Bill had a lot to do with Liam not going back to Steffy. Steffy is the one that choose to have sex with her father-in-law. Liam was going back to her until Bill made it look like he and Steffy was still having an affair. If Hope actually bangs Finn tomorrow, it would be nothing that Steffy hasn't already done to Hope with Liam. It is weird that it is ok for Steffy to not want her children around Sheila, but not for Hope not to want Beth around Sheila. Finn is a grown man who can see Sheila on his own. Just because Hope is willing to listen to him doesn't mean that she or her kids have to be around Sheila.

No one is saying that Hope should allow the kids around Sheila. If she is going to listen to Finn ramble on about his wonderful bio mom then she should be telling Finn that she will never allow he kids around Sheila and the reasons why. But she won't, she will just feign understanding while remarking his wife doesn't understand.

Since when does a person have to agree with someone to understand how they feel? Two people can disagree while understanding why the other person feels the way they do. Therapist do it all the time. Hope is not a therapist, but she could still understand Finn's feelings without agreeing with him.

Saying I am here etc it’s just not her place…..remember she worked Liam same way marriage troubles then she got knocked up

I remember it well and “working Liam” was exactly the way I saw it. Every scene in that roach motel with Liam and Hope grated on my nerves…Hope “helping” Steffy while passive aggressively dissing her to Liam and ultimately telling him she would never do to him what Steffy did. Errr, no, you didn’t sleep with your FIL once because you were devastated and thought your marriage was over, you fantasized about your husband’s nemesis for months and then had an actual sexual relationship with him for many more months. She’s setting the table now with Finn. It’s coming and he’s an oblivious dolt who would never see it. Personally I’m hoping Steffy realizes Finn is a lost cause and kicks him out before Hope can take advantage of her “marriage troubles” again. She can have him after the fact, and then let’s see how she enjoys walking her talk about psycho mommy. As I recall Hope didn’t want her kids around Deacon if he was involved with Sheila. I don’t remember her ever dropping that tidbit on Finn, just acting angelically understanding of his feelings to his face.

After the way Steffy has treated Hope, Hope owes Steffy nothing. Hope owed Steffy nothing then either. Steffy had inserted herself in every relationship that Hope had, standing by willing to take the leftovers. Bill had a lot to do with Liam not going back to Steffy. Steffy is the one that choose to have sex with her father-in-law. Liam was going back to her until Bill made it look like he and Steffy was still having an affair. If Hope actually bangs Finn tomorrow, it would be nothing that Steffy hasn't already done to Hope with Liam. It is weird that it is ok for Steffy to not want her children around Sheila, but not for Hope not to want Beth around Sheila. Finn is a grown man who can see Sheila on his own. Just because Hope is willing to listen to him doesn't mean that she or her kids have to be around Sheila.

No one is saying that Hope should allow the kids around Sheila. If she is going to listen to Finn ramble on about his wonderful bio mom then she should be telling Finn that she will never allow he kids around Sheila and the reasons why. But she won't, she will just feign understanding while remarking his wife doesn't understand.

it's the hope logan way

Saying I am here etc it’s just not her place…..remember she worked Liam same way marriage troubles then she got knocked up

I remember it well and “working Liam” was exactly the way I saw it. Every scene in that roach motel with Liam and Hope grated on my nerves…Hope “helping” Steffy while passive aggressively dissing her to Liam and ultimately telling him she would never do to him what Steffy did. Errr, no, you didn’t sleep with your FIL once because you were devastated and thought your marriage was over, you fantasized about your husband’s nemesis for months and then had an actual sexual relationship with him for many more months. She’s setting the table now with Finn. It’s coming and he’s an oblivious dolt who would never see it. Personally I’m hoping Steffy realizes Finn is a lost cause and kicks him out before Hope can take advantage of her “marriage troubles” again. She can have him after the fact, and then let’s see how she enjoys walking her talk about psycho mommy. As I recall Hope didn’t want her kids around Deacon if he was involved with Sheila. I don’t remember her ever dropping that tidbit on Finn, just acting angelically understanding of his feelings to his face.

After the way Steffy has treated Hope, Hope owes Steffy nothing. Hope owed Steffy nothing then either. Steffy had inserted herself in every relationship that Hope had, standing by willing to take the leftovers. Bill had a lot to do with Liam not going back to Steffy. Steffy is the one that choose to have sex with her father-in-law. Liam was going back to her until Bill made it look like he and Steffy was still having an affair. If Hope actually bangs Finn tomorrow, it would be nothing that Steffy hasn't already done to Hope with Liam. It is weird that it is ok for Steffy to not want her children around Sheila, but not for Hope not to want Beth around Sheila. Finn is a grown man who can see Sheila on his own. Just because Hope is willing to listen to him doesn't mean that she or her kids have to be around Sheila.

Perhaps Hope shouldn’t have agreed/offered to “help” Steffy back then if she hadn’t gotten past their previous interactions. I really don’t think Sheila will be satisfied with just Finn; she’s made a big deal of “her family”, “her grandchildren”, even including Kelly under that umbrella when she has zero bio connection to the kid. Since this is all about the bio connection … “primal” per Finn’s words… I don’t know how that fits in, but Sheila wants to be involved with Hayes and Kelly, and would want to be involved with Beth and Douglas too. Heck, she called Steffy her family the other day. She wants it all. If Hope didn’t want her kids around Deacon because he was involved with Sheila, then she shouldn’t want her kids around Finn if he’s involved with Sheila. Hope will ultimately prove herself to be the great pretender again or she will sincerely come to believe Sheila has changed and accept her into her family with Deacon (and her family with Finn if it goes that way). I find it interesting that many people who are adamant that Thomas can’t change seem to feel it’s possible for Sheila and vice versa. I think if we have a changed Thomas and a changed Sheila running around we have an even more boring show than we have now, and that’s saying a lot. Personally I hope Finn and, depending on how this goes, Hope, find out the hard way that Sheila will never really change. I don’t blame Steffy one bit for not wanting Finn to have anything to do with Sheila. If Finn’s draw to Sheila is so strong against all logic (again, per his words), then so be it. I think the situation is the very definition of an irreconcilable difference in a marriage. I think if Hope had been shot calling 911 trying to save her husband’s life, and believed him to be dead for months, it wouldn’t be so easy to say “no judgement” to someone who now wants to accept the shooter. In the end she couldn’t commit to Thomas, and while we or she may not know why for sure, it may be that even her capacity for forgiveness has its limits.

When Hope agreed to help Steffy, Hope didn't have all of the details. Bill is the one that made it look like he and Steffy was still carrying on an affair. Why would Hope encourage Liam to go back to Steffy if Hope thought Steffy was still having an affair with Bill. It was not the first time that Steffy had an affair with Bill so it wouldn't be too hard to believe that she was doing it again. I am not saying that Sheila has changed. Only time will tell, but I don't buy that Thomas has changed either. He has "changed" before only to not have changed after all. Ridge is always running around hollering that his boy has changed until Thomas pulls another deceitful stunt.